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LCMS president comments on sexuality documents

Gerald B. Kieschnick, president of the Lutheran Church–Missouri Synod, expressed “great disappointment and deep sadness” on the content of the two documents from the Task Force for the ELCA Studies on Sexuality.

One document concerns changes in standards for clergy and the other is a proposed social statement on human sexuality.

In a letter to LCMS members, Kieschnick said if a recommendation changing clergy standards were adopted by the 2009 ELCA Churchwide Assembly, “it would constitute a radical departure from the 2,000-year-long teaching of the Christian tradition that homosexual activity, whether inside or outside of a committed relationship, is contrary to Holy Scripture.”

The LCMS has repeatedly affirmed that the historical understanding of the Christian church is that the Bible condemns homosexual behavior as “intrinsically sinful,” he added.

Kieschnick reminded LCMS members of a resolution the LCMS passed in 2001 that it “cannot consider (the ELCA) to be an orthodox church body” but “we of the LCMS recognize that many of our brothers and sisters of the ELCA remain faithful to the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, and we resolve to reach out to them in love and support.”




Posted at 7:21 pm (U.S. Eastern) 4/7/2009

Praise God that there are those who still believe God's Word and have the courage to proclaim it.  I pray that those within the ELCA who remain faithful to the gospel of our Lord will remain courageous in that stand.

Bill Payne

Moscow, ID

Charlie Johnson

Charlie Johnson

Posted at 1:43 pm (U.S. Eastern) 4/9/2009

I truly believe it is time for the ELCA to disband as an organization representing any commonality concerning the major discussions of this time.

I am ready to subscribe to the practices and teachings fostered and promoted by the LCMS and I am personally looking to the Wisconsin Lutherans for greater scriptural leadership. The ELCA has failed and time will allow for this motion to eventually pass.

I will not miss the infighting of agenda based clergy.  Split now while the passions are running high enough to financially sustain the enevitable division.

I now more fully understand what I heard about wishing the opponent to fail; I hope you, the ELCA, fail in your endeavors.

Rik (former elca member)

Rik (former elca member)

Posted at 1:30 pm (U.S. Eastern) 5/7/2009

Thank You, President Kieschnick.  Pray for all in the ELCA.  Kyrie Eleison.  Christe Eleison.  Kyrie Eleison.



Posted at 7:36 pm (U.S. Eastern) 5/7/2009

On second thought, at what point does a church officially cease to be orthodox?  Was the ELCA truly orthodox prior to the task force's proposed statement and recommendations, or the endorsement by many "teaching theologians?"  Will it cross over at some point between August 17-23 in Minneapolis?  Or, maybe the LCMS president jumped the gun: Should he have waited with his comments for some point down the road when the ELCA may be ready to ordain pedaphiles (so long as they're in a lifelong, commited relationship), or perhaps when they develope a liturgy for the blessing of divorces, or when they can vote to support mandatory abortion for all unborn children with special needs  (I'm sorry--"tissue", not "children."  "Children" sounds so human).  At what point of the slippery slope is such a judgement made?  Will Euthanasia be blessed as well?  Those pushing for destructive polarization in the ELCA don't seem to care about how their decisions will effect the church catholic, and the church throughout the ages. 

V. Anderson

V. Anderson

Posted at 9:39 pm (U.S. Eastern) 6/2/2009

I grieve for the denomination in which my family resided for many, many years. Their eyes have been blinded by the god of this world, and they do not realize that, like Eve, they have been deceived by Satan's words, "Did God REALLY say...?". We, like so many others, have fled to truly evangelical churches, where the words of the Bible are preached, believed, and practiced.

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